Monday, August 11, 2014
Life Modeling vs. Photography Modeling: Why Photographers Pay More for Models than Painters
There are several reasons photography models are paid $75-$100/hr per session vs. life models which are paid $20-$25/hr per session. Generally speaking, a photographer will have produced multiple images that can be duplicated from negatives or digital media and will be able to create as many identical prints from that original source as desired. A painter will only have one finished product: a painting. Although the painter can make prints of that painting, owning a print of a painting is not the same as owning a painting. If someone had Ansel Adams negatives and a skilled lab technician, one could duplicate a hundred identical prints. However, there will one be one Van Gogh's "Starry Night." Even if one was able to duplicate "Starry Night" exactly, the time and effort it would take to make an exact duplicate is less cost efficient that reproducing a picture from negatives.
Now, there are some photographers that work in more specialty mediums which create one image with no reproducible negative such as tintype, Polaroid or wetplate. However, from a 2-3 hour session, even a wet plate photographer can get more than one image. Often a painter will only have one finished product from a session. Sometimes, it takes multiple sessions. I work with quite a few academic and realist revival painters. To get a realistic painting from life, it usually takes about 100 hours or more. This brings the modeling fees to about $2,000 for one finished work. Even if a model poses for a drink-and-draw or an art school where s/he is paid 20/hr, it is still a great opportunity. Most of the painters who hire models for $2,000+ jobs work at art schools and hire the models who posed well for their classes or attend drink-and-draws to scout for models to use in their personal work. It's like going to a casting where you also get paid.
Now why would models prefer to work for multiple session for 20/hr rather than work with a photographer and get $100/hr? It seems like it would be less time consuming to just go for big money all the time. But for a painting over multiple sessions, a model is pretty much guaranteed $2,000. It is steady, dependable employment. I know photographers complain about flaky models, but photographers can be just as flakey. If a photographer pulls out of a $300 shoot, it leaves the model in a lurch. The painter, on the other hand, will probably not disappear or suddenly cancel. And if the painter does cancel, it is likely that s/he will reschedule if s/he wants to finish the painting.
Some painters prefer to work from reference photos. For reference photos only (meaning no release) rates generally start at 50-75/hr. In all situations, as soon as a camera comes out, rates go up all across the board. Painters seem to be the most understanding and accepting of this. The only people who seem to not get it are photographers. In fact, most art schools an ateliers ban the use of photography.
(Personal aside: There are a few private arts who hired me for a sketching session and asked if they could take one or two pictures strictly for reference. However they paid me extra for this, in most cases $20-40 bucks extra for maybe one or two pictures. Recently, I posed for fully-clothed reference photos for a painter and he paid me $300 for about 20 minutes. I've told a few painters about this and the consensus seems to be that it was not unusual or unheard of for someone to pay that much money for reference photos. When I tell photographers they are like, "$300 for 20 minutes? Then he has to spend all that time painting the pictures? That's just crazy!" It turns out that in most cases, painters are paying much more per picture for reference photos that they will not sell or show at a gallery than photographers are paying for a whole photo session which they will presumably try to sell or show at a gallery.)
One of the reasons rates are higher for anything dealing with photography for this is that sitting for a drawing or painting gives the model plausible deniability. If a person sees a painting of a model, s/he can say, "Oh, that isn't me, that is a wo/man that looks like me." However, with photographs it is much more difficult. Even without a release, there is always a chance that the photos can be released publically on the internet or passes around from person to person.
Which brings us to releases. What is one exactly paying for to have a signed release? One is paying for the right to use a person's actual likeness, in perpetuity, for any reason that does not defame the person in the image. Often releases say that not only the photographer can use the image, but their estate and their heirs. So after the photographer has passes the photographers children and grand children own the rights to the image. That is a long time to have control of the exact likeness of a living individual.
So a photographer says to a model that s/he will not use her real name or put the pictures on the internet. There is no guarantee that s/he will honor those terms. It may even have a special line in the release that the model goes by such-and-such a name, but it does not guarantee the photographer will only refer to the model my that name. There is a chance that any photographer could suddenly feel vindictive, want attention or just plain forget and post a nude picture of a model under her real name. There is also no guarantee that the photographer's heirs will honor these terms either. At any point a nude photo of a model could appear on the internet under the model's real name. Unlike a painting where there is plausible deniability, it is hard for a model to deny a picture is of him/her. If the model retires from modeling, the model's future employers could find it and fire the model. I realize that this seems ludicrous that someone would be fired over art nudes, however, we live in a bubble where nudity isn't a big deal. Unfortunately, most of the outside world seems to feel differently. It labels people who are naked on the internet "sluts" or "morally corrupt." It can reflect negatively on a company to employ an ex-nude model. Did the model willingly take this risk? Of course, but probably because a higher rate was involved which made the risk more worthwhile.
(Personal aside: I used to go my only my first name, Aubrey. However, people started to credit photos to my first and last name. In the beginning, I tried to get photographers to remove my last name. Some did. But others were resistant, telling me it would take too much work to change their website or that it isn't a big deal. After a while, I just stopped asking people to take down my last name and pretty much had to own that naked pictures are attached to my first and last name regardless. I am not ashamed of the work I have done and I don't care if there are naked picture of me on the internet, I just wished they only used my first name as I requested back when it mattered. Now I am unemployable outside of artistic fields and it is much easier for people to find out who the naked girl in the picture is and stalk me. On the upside, the art schools will always hire me as long as I can hold a 20-minute standing pose and I've moved around so much it is hard to locate a valid address.)
The last reason why there is such a difference in rates is due to the difficulty of the job. Although life modeling for painters is difficult, it requires much less effort or personal engagement than photography. In fact, a painter is pretty much paying a model to sit there and meditate while s/he paints the model. Photography generally requires much more activity. A model must move around, change poses, be physical on the job. Take a model into the woods and there is a greater chance the model will get injured, bitten by bugs or be exposed to poison ivy which will put him/her out of commission, losing money and work, until the model heals. Take the model to an abandoned building and she risks stepping on glass or nails.
Although the biggest grievance of photographers is they are paying more money to shoot a model in the short term, as it turns out artists are paying more money to paint a model over the long term-- and getting less of a return (one painting as opposed to multiple photographic images which in many cases are reproducible ad infinitum.) Painters usual even pay more money per photo that are purely for reference than photographers pay for photos which the photographer could sell or exhibit. Coupled with the personal risks that strip a model of his/her anonymity and limit the model's potential employment opportunities, this is why photography rates are higher than life modeling rates.
Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Jacob Collins "Penelope"
Here is the figure study in the catalog:
An artist friend of mine who works at Christie's send me a few pictures of the completed piece:
Thursday, November 1, 2012
General Pencil's David Kassan Signature Collection charcoal set
. . .and here is a pallet of them:
The same picture, entitled "Aubrey Looking Forward," is on display at the Henoch Gallery:
However, after the Hurricane it is hard to say whether or not it is still intact.
Monday, September 17, 2012
A collection of terrible cell phone pictures from on the road
Richmond, VA
I went to a BBQ festival in Greensboro, NC. They thought I was under age and stamped me with baby feet.
My scroll of tickets from Greensboro, NC to Philadelphia, PA
. . .and there is more . . .
Philly is one of the few cities who still uses tokens. They also give them to you in hermetically-sealed drug baggies. I like to call them "five bags" or "ten bags" depending on the amount of tokens. However, I do not ask the clerk for "ten bag" out loud.
Street poetry on a traffic cone in Philadelphia Chinatown
Sunday, May 27, 2012
Once more with feeling!
Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Luggage Dilemmas
I ordered a new suitcase by Timbuk2, since their bags are usually indestructible. (This is the face of compulsive suitcase organization.)
I say "usually indestructible" because due to terrible baggage handling in Pittsburgh, the handle of my other suitcase snapped. It was stuck in the upright position for about 5 bus trips in the past two months. However it took this one to kill it.
The folks handling my warranty request have been really nice. I am not sure if what happened to it is covered, but I am hoping there is some way to at least fix it since I don't think that model is manufactured anymore.
Thursday, April 5, 2012
Touring the East Coast for lack of options.
Philadelphia, PA: May 1st - May 6th
Pittsburgh, PA: May 7th - May 13th [b]maybe[/b]
NYC: May 14 - 26th
DC: May 27 - June 4th
Richmond, VA June 5th - 13th [b]maybe[/b]
NYC: June 14th - 30th
Burlington, VT: July 1st - July 6th [b]maybe[/b]
various places in North Carolina, depending on hosting: July 7 - July 14th [b]maybe[/b]
NYC: July 15-31st
Tuesday, September 20, 2011
The advertising art model and the internet police.
Aubrey:
Personally I don't care whether I look at bare-breated photos online or not. Yours are pretty tasteful and attractive.
However. Are you aware that there are lots of kids who visit Craigslist and could easily run across your photos? I'm just old fashioned enough to feel they shouldn't be exposed.
So, I've flagged your posting and will again whenever I run across it
Email #2:
And also, Craigslist has a prohibition against posting more than one item featuring the same thing.
Flagged again.
My Reply:
Hello Tony,
Thank you for getting in touch with me. I am sorry that you were upset by my posts. I have been posting in the artist's community for about 4 years now and it is generally acceptable to post nude images there. I've not run into many problems with it since getting a verified craigslist account and you are the first to actually contact me about it.
I can completely understand your concerns about children being exposed to images way beyond their maturity level. However, being my images are tasteful nudes without explicit or sexually graphic material on par as what one would see in an art gallery, I don't feel it is an issue. That being said, every person has their own feelings about what crosses the line and I respect your right to have an opinion. Given the nature of craigslist, ie: communicating with strangers over the internet via email, children shouldn't actually be using it on their own without their parent's permission. It is basically the classified section of the internet. I believe you must be 18 to even sign up for a craigslist account or else craigslist would be liable for children being exposed to predators and inappropriate content. There isn't much a child could do on craigslist that wouldn't require a parent's permission, anyway. This includes buying, selling, getting a job and going to public events. A child definitely shouldn't be browsing the personals, probably won't be getting an apartment and there is often quite a bit of inappropriate talk in the discussion forums which include the posting of raunchy pictures and improper language. Craigslist is not a site for children.
I know things are different now, but rather than child-proofing the internet and restricting the use of adults on a site geared towards adults, parents should monitor what their children see and where their children go on the internet. I am almost 30. When the internet was new I was about 14 or 15. My parents used to sit next to me and monitor what I did while I was using it.
Given that the artist base for whom corsets and art nudes are different, I was attempting to target both groups with two posts. As odd as it may seem to some one who may not be involved with the internet modeling community, genres can be rather specialized. Some one looking for an art model to pose for their college class may not look twice at a post where a model is in a corset and would rather see the model doing standard "art" poses. On the other hand, some one who is looking to photograph vintage clothing would like to see images of the model int he corset. So this trip I experimented with two posts instead of trying to use one post to incorporate multiple themes. I was also concerned about whether this could be considered "multiple posting" also. Usually, if you do what craigslist considers to be multiple posts, it will physically stop you from posting. It give me the message that my posts were similar, so I considered it to comply with their terms. I considered this to be similar to a construction company who offered two services, such as roofing and plastering. This company would post one post to target the people who would like a new roof with picture examples and another to target people who were interested in plaster work with examples of their plastering skills. Then again, this might just be something I do this month depending on the response rate of diversifying the posts.
Thank you again for getting in touch with me about your concerns. Again, I respect your opinion and your right to flag me. I realize my reply will not change your opinion but I felt I should acknowledge your concerns and explain my side.
Sincerely,
Aubrey
Monday, January 31, 2011
Snowed in NYC
But there is always hope I can get out of here. And I really need to get some sleep.

Thom Ogee shot this of me during a terrible snow storm in Buffalo a few years ago. It seemed appropriate. My face is really in a snowbank. Sometimes I think I must be crazy to agree to do the things I do for art.
Saturday, February 14, 2009
I am walking in Tragedy on the Catwalk . . .
It occurred to me that maybe I could make my shirt out of a large circuit board from salvaged an old CD player. My first idea was to boil the board in order to soften the board to bend it into a concave shape. After about 10 minutes and inadvertently inhaling some fun cancer-causing agents, it dawned on me that most circuit boards were built to withstand extensive heat. Since the board was pretty much soaked and shot at this point, I just chucked it. Although I have once again brought myself closer to unexplainable dark patches on my lungs of whose likeness is often seen in those who work in 3rd world factories; I consider it a valuable learning experience all the same.
Which brings me to innovation 2: multiple circuit boards which I need to solder together. The funniest thing about it all is that I am kind of disappointed that I am wasting perfectly good circuit boards.
Besides this, I am working on some circuit bent toys I can actually affix to me. (The main concern though is how to affix the mini mixing board, effects pedals and possibly a practice amp to my back.) I am also making my own “walk song.” Too bad my good music rig is still down for the count and I will be faking it with this computer and it's not-so-musically inclined sound card.
Basically, I am showcasing all of my nerdy talents. Since the event is being filmed as a television pilot/series I thought that maybe I might be lucky and someone who needs sound effect work might see what I do and take an interest. I've never been one to seek fame or fortune, I am just looking to eventually be the guy (gal, actually) who makes the strange sounds for a living.
Picture Taken by Tammy Scott-Garner:
I should probably post this also:
Monday, January 12, 2009
Back to NYC.
Generally, when I go on tours it is almost always to NYC and I have steady clients who book me consistently. This trip I will be going to DC as well. Initially, I was kind of nervous about it because I am not as familiar with the area. Which pretty much sums up my feelings on travel.
Whenever I go someplace new I have two big concerns: where I am going to stay and how I am going to get around. Generally, I nail down the former first. In NYC I have friends with whom I stay. Luckily, I also have a model friend whom I met during her Buffalo tour that lives in DC along with her significant others (whom I know casually via Model Mayhem) that were are gracious enough to allow me to stay with them. The latter I can figure out through hopstop and the wmata website.
But I am always afraid of getting lost or arriving late. When I have to go to a place outside the Burroughs (ie: Jersey, Staten Island, way, way out on Long Island, etc.) The first time I do it, I am always afraid I may be late. So I factor in “getting lost” time and usually arrive ridiculously early and have to wait at the station until I feel it is okay to call the photographer and tell him I am there. But at least I am there on time.
Lately I have been contemplating going out to California in the summer. I've actually never been out to the West Coast. I have a few problems with it though, the main one being bookings. In NYC with my regulars alone, I know I will make enough to cover all my living expenses in Buffalo. Going out west is a much greater cost. Even if I budget a monthly amount to put away for my trip so it isn't a huge expenditure, I still have to worry about if I can book comparable work as to what I book regularly in NYC. New places have no guarantees.
Picture copyright Tam Nguyen
Wednesday, December 3, 2008
There are no words.
The connotation is always
Communicated in Jest,
You and your
Historic methods of preservation;
You may be
My best story.
The one I always
Retell
Over and over
And over again--
Written on the spools
Of an archaic format,
There are no words
Just pictures,
Like an incandescent flip-book
decaying within
The crystallized barriers of cryogenics:
We cannot waste
An inch of 120mm
To document
The reality
As it is now.
It is just
An invention,
The fabrication
Of your dreams.
I wrote this today.
Thursday, November 13, 2008
great, big 'naked model' party
The person who house-sat for me while I was in NYC on a modeling tour is a photographer. On my last tour he was told by the people from whom he rented his studio/apartment that he they were rehabbing the building and raising the rent. So he moved into a friend's house that was empty while going through the closing process. It closed early and he was all set to move into an apartment-- but the old tenant does not want to leave. Currently he is living on my couch (and when he isn't working, cleaning my disastrous home.) Previous to this, when he was still living in his friend's house, he scheduled with a few out-of-town models for this weekend. Well, luckily I have spacious accommodations because everyone is staying here.
Here's the breakdown (please excuse the misuse of [brackets] through out this list, but I felt the need to distinguish the difference between the (parentheses) for clarity's sake)-- One model comes in tomorrow [gets the guest room], another model and her husband come in Saturday [they are bringing an inflatable mattress and get the floor, probably in the living room] another model (friend of the model who arrives on Friday) is also coming in on Friday [shares the guest room with Friday model], Photographer on the couch in the back den and me in my room. Full house. It gets more complicated with individual model's schedules, ie: who shoots with which Buffalo photographer when, but those are details on which neither I or the photographer are quite clear.
Picture Copyright Johnny Sandaire
Wednesday, November 12, 2008
Always something when I come home
As for the internet, it seems that my bank has been sending my payments to Time Warner's old address, regardless of the fact that I updated my account. Talking with a representative, it seems that I am not the only person who has experienced this unpleasant HSBC/Time Warner miscommunication phenomenon.
Picture copyright Eric Hanson


















